Alumni Sandstorm ~ 04/10/05 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 6 Bombers sent stuff: Dick McCoy ('45, '46, '02), Burt Pierard ('59) Dave Hanthorn ('63), Ray Stein ('64) Jeff Curtis ('69), Greg Alley ('73) ******************************************************* ******************************************************* >>From: Dick McCoy ('45, '46, '02) Re: ET To: Burt Pierard ('59) When your chain is shaken you sure do rattle. I'm sure the prisoners of whatever origin would be sure to have a security clearance. Personally I like Ray Stein's ('64) ISU answer... it sort of follows my statement that most Italians were conscientious objectors from the days of the African Campaign when they were alternately run over by Rommel then the Brits. Also AKA Clowes/Carlson ('54) has finally answered my question as to where ET really landed. Keith Maupin ('47) and Jim McKeown ('53) have interesting arguments. At any rate this is my final missle on this dumb subject. Really. Let's get the donut debate going again. Love all you Bombers -Dick McCoy ('45, '46, '02) Take your pick. ******************************************************* ******************************************************* >>From: Burt Pierard ('59) To: Keith Maupin ('47) Re: POWs at Columbia Camp Nothing in the published documentation conflicts with your memories except the scuttlebutt about POWs. Remember that the "old guy" is saying that they were positively, without question, POWs at Columbia Camp. Also, I would bet that the "lots of the Italians" around here in the '40s that you mentioned were all USA citizens, certainly not POWs. To: Jim McKeown ('53) Re: Prison Camps Thanks for providing another source to prove my point about Columbia Camp, to wit, there were no POWs there. As to the Pasco facility (first I heard of it, by the way), Ray Stein ('64) provided the probable explanation in his 4/08/05 posting about the Italian Service Units (ISUs). I would guess that this was one of those and they were probably working for the Navy. Bomber Cheers, -Burt Pierard ('59) ~ Richland ******************************************************* ******************************************************* >>From: Dave Hanthorn ('63) Re: the inventor of Wool Wax Creme To: Betty Hiser Gulley ('49) and Tami Lyons Zirians ('76) Visit this web site for more information on the invention of Wool Wax Creme, including the name of the woman that invented it: http://www.marchalabs.com/information.html Bomber Cheers, -Dave Hanthorn (Gold Medal Class of '63) ******************************************************* ******************************************************* >>From: Ray Stein ('64) To: Burt Pierard ('59) Sorry if I misled you. I didn't mean to imply that the Italian POWs might have worked for Federal Prison Industries as employees. No, they would have been working inmates with an unusual POW status since Italy had switched sides in WWII. The "friendly to U.S." Italian POWs were spread around the country and some experienced very good conditions (read "Prisoners in Paradise"). For example, in many places a Catholic priest would be notified to arrange Mass for the Italians (just as Father Sweeney did at Camp Columbia). If someone really wants to know whether Italian POWs were at Camp Columbia or Port of Pasco, the records are on microfilm in the National Archives (see file 389.4.5). I also found on the internet where someone has recorded the name, rank, station, etc. of every WWII Italian POW (over 50,000) who was sent to the U.S. The records are on CDs, but it will lessen your "stash" of money to get them. Or closer to home, someone could contact the Dante Alighieri Society of Washington (located in the Beacon Hill neighborhood of Seattle). Recently (3/9/05), one of their members, Dom Moreo, gave a talk on "Italian POWs in Seattle during WWII". He may know something about Italian POWs in other parts of the state. -Ray Stein ('64) ~ enjoying Spring Break and pondering a question from Jim House ('63), "Did we have a spring break when we were in H.S.?" "Too Tall" House doesn't think we did and I can't remember. What say you'all. ******************************************************* ******************************************************* >>From: Jeff Curtis ('69) Re: Another Day http://richlandbombers.com/Xtra05/050410-Curtis.htm -Jeff Curtis ('69) ******************************************************* ******************************************************* >>From: Greg Alley ('73) To: Brad Upton ('74) Hey Brad, since you're working with the Smothers Brothers can you get me Yo-Yo Man's autograph? Re: Big Y The Big Y tavern is going down today or maybe it happened late yesterday. The old buildings that housed the Wagon Wheel, the Starlite, the old gas station that became a U-Haul place, and all the other surrounding businesses are gone. It looks like a war zone and the landscape of the Richland Y is forever changed. It will soon be slow traffic time and long construction delays. -Greg Alley ('73) ~ In Richland in the wind but enjoying the spring ******************************************************* ******************************************************* That's it for today. Please send more. *******************************************************